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Post by Aki [KoA] Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:49 pm

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So I put it here as well.
Help is always welcome Smile

[Update2] RE: Improve my teams - help on next steps
My first update on this. I changed my major team to Santa.

In the moment I have 2 teams.
Beast-Team:(Name/Level/CD)
Great Schema of Dark 77 9
Great Schema of Light 89 17
Tefnut Goddess of Rain 59 19
Great Schema of Fire 85 8
Great Schema of Earth 67 20

Santa-Team:
(Name/Level/CD)
Santa Claus the Deep Thinker 92 15
Dragon Guren Sean (PR) 99 10
History Writer Urd 99 24
Paladin Queen of Water 96 19
Paladin King of Dark 97 24


Additional cards (Card-No./Name/Level/CD)
Water
4 Sage Molly 1 10
23 Aquatic Stavrophore 27 13
42 Crystalgon 1 19
148 Crystal Croc Golem 1 14
161 Metallic Fin 1 24
177 Cthulhu 1 14
296 Yidhra the Bubbling Mermaid 1 19
344 Princess of Troy 70 12
432 The Treasure Raider 1 17
438 Paladin Guardian 51 9
476 Bogle the Enchanter 1 26

Fire
45 Flamisaur 39 19
121 Faith Skuld 1 20
135 Hellfire Paladin 1 19
150 Metal Fire Golem 5 14
165 Metallic Leonide 1 24
180 Cruel Cerberus 5 14
298 Little Magness 22 17
311 Dragon from the fiery side 5 14
439 Paladin Warrior 1 12
449 Furious Lizard King 1 19
477 Boggart the Naughty Elf 1 26

Earth
12 Archdruid Duncan 95 7
48 Armorode 1 19
123 Fortune Teller Verdandi 38 18
139 Paladin King of Earth 96 18
183 Medusa 52 26
205 Freya 30 21
300 The Earth Chrysalis 5 19
313 Dragon from the starry side 14 14
440 Paladin Shooter 1 12

Light
16 Lord Nathaniel 99 6
51 Lightigon 5 19
127 Eteral Granter Idun 50 24
186 Griffin 5 14
207 Thor 50 21
304 Little Marguerite 69 15
315 Dragon from the holy side 45 17
401 The Psalm Whisperer - Yan 1 24
419 Dragon Spiritor - Light 1 14
441 Paladin Swordman 1 12
501 Keeper of Festivals - Nian 1 21

Dark
55 Phantomasaur 37 13
130 Spirit Whisperer Valkyrie 99 11
159 Belial Golem 5 14
209 Loki 50 17
286 Saruman the Evil Lord 21 22
307 Little Isabell 70 20
317 Dragon from the dark side 34 18
442 Paladin Gladiator 1 12

Where do I stand?
I have to face Nidhog. So last (5th) seal - 5th battle - not tried yet.
Old Trans. - get to stage 45 - any help would be fine.
New Trans. - 35 most often - 39 at my best.
No Zodiac EX stage done so far.
Just made Plundering of Queen GM.


Questions:
*Should I change Urd with Isabell in Santa team?
*What to do with my duplicates? Are there some worth keeping? Or should I feed them all?
*What improvements do you see for my teams?
*Do I have a chance to get Odin?

Thanks for your help.


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Post by Brokenshirt Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:29 pm

hi Aki,

Santa team is a good choice to start building.  I would definitely find a replacement for Urd.  

1. you are getting no bonus from Santa by using Urd.
2. you are changing the attribute of the enemy to water which makes it harder to damage them with Santa.

Izzy is a good choice if you get some levels on her.  If you have the material I would PR another starter. They are huge in Santa teams.  You could also start working on Troy but she won't be too useful until you get another enchantress as she is pretty dangerous on her own.

As for duplicates, I have a hard time getting rid of anything and tend to hand on for dear life.  There are some cards you want to keep as duplicates as they come in handy and some you just don't need but I struggle let go of things I don't need anyway. I would definitely keep extras of any converter cards cause you never know when you might need more than 1 in your deck. Spend time leveling their skill whenever you can.  Anytime you get a 3* knome, feed it to a Fight Mode card of the same color (I personally feed 3 at a time). Same for slimes for Defense Mode.

As for Odin, I am not sure on that one. You have a high level team which is half the battle.  I don't see why you couldn't beat it although you have to expect to spend some diamonds, just not sure how many.


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Post by Lj_Lee Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:36 pm

I was just skimming thru your list and found you have a potential for a good light deck:

Thor (ldr), Light DS, Natheniel (to PR), Griffin, Odin (KIV)

If I were you I will start to lvl them and work Nat to PR (probably Thor if the TC permits) and get them read for Odin in the next SM then there you go, a solid Mono Light team.  Very Happy 

One thing I like about Mono dark and light is that they are not weak against any attribute (earth against fire, water against earth, fire against water).

Good luck with that!
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Post by Aki [KoA] Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:19 pm

Thank you both for your advices.
Will update this every now and then and hope to get more tips from the experienced players.

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Post by CrazyAchmed Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:33 pm

You could rotate the Paladin Queen out of the Santa deck for Troy. Paladins are more like utility cards. You want them in your deck for stamina saving wins, but for pure speed and more powerful bursts, Troy is required. You won't be beating Gemini EX or some harder stages without it.

Second, you want to lower the cooldowns of your Great Schema of Dark and Fire. Drop their CD down to 6 or 7 by feeding them evolved slimes, leader GSoF, ally a Greenery King leader, and you can easily beat Nidhogg and collect the Fifth Seal reward. Sixth Seal should be easy for your Santa deck, and this should keep the diamonds coming in for you too.

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Post by larken Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:19 am

If you have the evo materials for more PR starters, definitely work on that. Other than that, work on leveling Cassandra.

If you get another enchantress in the future, your team would be able to clear most damage intensive stages.

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Post by Aki [KoA] Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:13 pm

[Update3]
Still going with Santa team. Most of the time with three Palas in. I change them when needed.
Some new cards - but do not know what to do with them.

Beast-Team:(Name/Level/CD)
Great Schema of Dark 80 7
Medusa Fatale 90 25
Tefnut Goddess of Rain 60 18
Great Schema of Fire 99 5
Great Schema of Earth 93 20

Santa-Team:
(Name/Level/CD)
Santa Claus the Deep Thinker 99 15
Dragon Guren Sean (PR) 99 10
Paladin King of Earth 96  18
Paladin Queen of Water 99 18
Paladin King of Dark 97 24


Additional cards (Card-No./Name/Level/CD)
Water
4 Sage Molly 1 9
23 Aquatic Stavrophore 35 12
42 Crystalgon 1 19
118 History Writer Urd 99 24
133 Paladin Queen of Water 99 18
148 Crystal Croc Golem 1 14
161 Metallic Fin 1 24
177 Cthulhu 67 14
212 Tefnut Goddess of Rain 60 19
231 Hydrometallic Dragon 1 29
296 Yidhra the Bubbling Mermaid 1 19
345 Cursed Prophesier Cassandra 66 12
432 The Treasure Raider 1 17
438 Paladin Guardian 51 9
476 Bogle the Enchanter 1 26
491 The Lost Mad Hatter 1 19

Fire
28 Great Schema of Fire 99 5
45 Flamisaur 39 19
121 Faith Skuld 1 20
136 Paladin King of Fire 77 15
150 Metal Fire Golem 5 14
165 Metallic Leonide 1 24
180 Cruel Cerberus 57 14
213 Seth 1 14
233 Pyrometallic Dragon 1 29
299 Magness the Dragonborn 1 17
311 Dragon from the fiery side 5 14
409 Dragon Guren Sean (PR) 99 10
439 Paladin Warrior 1 12
449 Furious Lizard King 1 19
477 Boggart the Naughty Elf 1 26
479 Santa Claus the Deep Thinker 99 15
492 March Hare the Insane 1 19

Earth
12 Archdruid Duncan 95 7
32 Great Schema of Earth 93 20
48 Armorode 1 19
123 Fortune Teller Verdandi 70 18
139 Paladin King of Earth 96 18
184 Medusa Fatale 90 25
205 Freya 50 21
290 Nidhogg the Lord of Undead 1 24
301 Little Yvette 1 19
313 Dragon from the starry side 14 14
440 Paladin Shooter 1 12
493 Caterpillar the Remonstrator 1 19

Light
16 Lord Nathaniel 99 6
36 Great Schema of Light 89 17
51 Lightigon 5 19
127 Eteral Granter Idun 90 24
140 Light Paladin 15 24
170 Metallic Wolf 1 24
186 Griffin 69 11
207 Thor 50 21
304 Little Marguerite 70 14
315 Dragon from the holy side 50 17
363 Galio the Broad Swordsman 1 21
401 The Psalm Whisperer - Yan 1 24
419 Dragon Spiritor - Light 1 14
431 The Desirous Elf Queen 33 21
441 Paladin Swordman 1 12
501 Keeper of Festivals - Nian 66 21

Dark
40 Great Schema of Dark 80 7
55 Phantomasaur 54 13
130 Spirit Whisperer Valkyrie 99 11
145 Paladin King of Dark 97 23
159 Belial Golem 34 13
210 Loki God of Chaos 23 16
286 Saruman the Evil Lord 42 20
308 Isabell the Black Widow 91 19
317 Dragon from the dark side 43 15
442 Paladin Gladiator 1 12
495 Smiling Cheshire Cat 1 18

Where do I stand?
Lv. 152 now Smile
Still I have to face Nidhog. So last (5th) seal - 5th battle - not tried yet.
Old Trans. - got to stage 49 - but Wukong got me Sad.
New Trans. - 35 most often - 44 at my best - no chance to beat Saruman.
My first Zodiac EX stage done - Capricorn.
Did not go for Odin - but took Nidhogg SM.
I do all new battles - some GM Stages are too hard for me. But I always go for the card drops.
Way to Curse - got to 19.

Started leveling Cassandra - but I think she is dangerous in my team - no more healing possible.
Doing farming teams for guild missions to level some CDs.
Managed to level DSoF CD to max.
Still feeding slimes to DSoD.

Questions:
*What to do with my duplicates? Are there some worth keeping? Or should I feed them all?
*What improvements do you see for my teams?
*Should I PR a second starter?
*Should I use my Horners to PR something or better wait?
*Would you hedge a second DSoF or DSoD or something?
*When do you use an Eye Spirit or Harpy or Madhead?

Thanks for your help.

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Post by fattony888 Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:13 am

Ill just answer ur questions:

duplicates keep them if u want a chance to lower cd of ur main (takes time) i normally sell all my dupes cause i hate looking at them, which is actually a mistake, u wanna save some small stuff for when "temple of X" comes around. (e.g i couldnt do temple of fire GM cause i didnt keep my dupe gsoa,qwow,metallic fin etc.)

In terms of improvements...u wanna get diablo this weds. spent up to 15diamonds if possible and make the elf team:

diablo, magness, yvette, elf queen, issy, saruman(ally)

In terms of starters to pr. endor is the next best candidate after sean. u dont have endor atm so i would wait, unless ur desperate for another starter pr then go for go for nathaniel, cause u can make a decent light deck in the future. (personally im saving my memory travellers for future PR series, iv only got 1 pr sean.)

Wait for diamond draws that you can use to make a mono light/mono dark, and pr loki or thor, depending on what you get. (u should have went for odin)

I have 2 gsof and 2 gsod myself, they r good for beast/heal teams. plus schemas r getting PR-ed

Madhead only use it with 4 primes, Harpys use when you reach lvl 8+ on cards that are critical to your team, Eye spirits use them on lvl 90+ cards with 4mill or more exp curves




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Post by Aki [KoA] Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:54 pm

[Update 4] new improvements underlined

A month later and some things changed. Thanks for your help in forum and on guild chat my knight brothers.
PRed Nathaniel. And used 2 Harpies to get Sean on max. CD level. (this helps a lot - thx for the hint  Very Happy )
Still using Santa - sometimes Beasts.

Beast-Team:(Card-No./Name/Level/CD)
40 Great Schema of Dark 80 7
212 Tefnut Goddess of Rain 60 16
32 Great Schema of Earth 99 20
184 Medusa Fatale 99 24
28 Great Schema of Fire 99 5

Santa-Team:(Card-No./Name/Level/CD)
479 Santa Claus the Deep Thinker 99 15
345 Cursed Prophesier Cassandra 99 12
145 Paladin King of Dark 99 22
411 Duke Nathaniel (PR) 99 11
409 Dragon Guren Sean (PR) 99 8

Trained my Witches(Card-No./Name/Level/CD) Smile
87 Alice the Astrologer 50 7
95 Lilith the Alchemist 50 5
91 Karis the Prioress 50 5
93 Antonia the Missionary 50 6
89 Marymount the Witch 50 9


Additional cards (Card-No./Name/Level/CD)
Water
4 Sage Molly 1 9
23 Aquatic Stavrophore 35 12
42 Crystalgon 1 19
118 History Writer Urd 99 24
133 Paladin Queen of Water 99 17
148 Crystal Croc Golem 1 10
161 Metallic Fin 1 24
177 Cthulhu 70 10
231 Hydrometallic Dragon 1 29
296 Yidhra the Bubbling Mermaid 1 15
432 The Treasure Raider 1 17
438 Paladin Guardian 51 9
476 Bogle the Enchanter 1 26
480 The Great Mother of Lust 1 24
491 The Lost Mad Hatter 1 19
551 The Deep Outsider 1 23

Fire
45 Flamisaur 39 19
121 Faith Skuld 1 19
136 Paladin King of Fire 99 15
150 Metal Fire Golem 5 14
165 Metallic Leonide 1 24
180 Cruel Cerberus 70 10
213 Seth 1 14
233 Pyrometallic Dragon 1 29
285 Diablo the Lord of Terror 63 18
299 Magness the Dragonborn 36 13
311 Dragon from the fiery side 5 14
439 Paladin Warrior 1 12
449 Furious Lizard King 1 19
477 Boggart the Naughty Elf 1 26
492 March Hare the Insane 1 19
496 Tyrant - The Queen of Hearts 1 15
553 The Fire Vampire 1 23

Earth
12 Archdruid Duncan 99 7
48 Armorode 1 19
123 Fortune Teller Verdandi 70 17
139 Paladin King of Earth 99 17
205 Freya 50 21
235 Terrametallic Dragon 1 19
290 Nidhogg the Lord of Undead 1 24
302 Yvette the Butterfly 43 15
313 Dragon from the starry side 14 14
440 Paladin Shooter 1 12
493 Caterpillar the Remonstrator 1 19

Light
36 Great Schema of Light 89 15
51 Lightigon 5 19
127 Eteral Granter Idun 93 22
140 Light Paladin 15 20
170 Metallic Wolf 1 24
186 Griffin 70 10
207 Thor 50 20
237 Luminmetallic Dragon 1 19
304 Little Marguerite 70 14
315 Dragon from the holy side 50 17
363 Galio the Broad Swordsman 1 21
401 The Psalm Whisperer - Yan 11 20
419 Dragon Spiritor - Light 1 14
431 The Desirous Elf Queen 84 18
441 Paladin Swordman 1 12
501 Keeper of Festivals - Nian 72 21

Dark
55 Phantomasaur 64 13
130 Spirit Whisperer Valkyrie 99 11
159 Belial Golem 34 13
210 Loki God of Chaos 52 16
239 Noctimetallic Dragon 1 19
286 Saruman the Evil Lord 63 20
308 Isabell the Black Widow 99 18
317 Dragon from the dark side 50 15
442 Paladin Gladiator 1 12
495 Smiling Cheshire Cat 1 18

Where do I stand? News.
Lv. 163 - so 11 levels in a month - fine Smile
Nidhogg in the tower was mine - easy with beast team with GSoF leader - but they hit so weak Smile
Now I am on seal 6 water island - doing a level only now and then - too much else to do
Old Trans. - got to stage 49 - could not beat it
New Trans. - 44 often now - but no chance to beat Saruman.
I hate diamond draws - always get crap and dupes Sad
Got all metallic dragons.
Doing the new Terror battles - but only to master - the gm ones are too tough I think.
Still have no Endor - hope for the special friend points drawing days Smile


Questions:

  • Can I build a team to beat Way to Bravery/Curse/Faith?
  • How to get Saruman down in New Transmigation?
  • How to deal with Terror of Monstrosity (no fire runes!)?
  • Am I able to beat Transcendent Sanctorium gm?
  • I see a beginning Diablo team, Light team and Dark team. Anything else I miss?


Thank you for all your advices.

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